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La Hortense ➡ 1814 Flore

11261
Nominal Guns40
NationalityRépublique Française
OperatorState Navy
Acquired3.7.1803
ShipyardToulon - Provence
CategoryFifth Rate
National RateTroisième Rang
Ship TypeFrigate
Sailing RigShip Rigged
Deleted from list1840

1 Ship Commander


DatesRankNameSource
1805 - 1806Capitaine de Vaisseau
Louis Charles Auguste La Marre la MeillerieFrench
Naval Sailor
Service 1755-1855
TRN5

1 Commissioned Officer


DatesRankNameSource
1826Lieutenant de Vaisseau
Fortuné Joseph Hyacinthe Le PrédourFrench
Naval Sailor
Administrator
Service 1804-1858
ref:673

1 Passenger


DatesRankNameSource
1817Constructeur Naval
Pierre Amédée ZédéFrench
Naval Sailor
Ship Builder
Service 1809-1863
ref:673

Service History


DateEventSource
4.2.1805Action of 1805-02-04
4.2.1805Took the Sloop
Arrow (28) 1796-1805
British 28 Gun
Unrated Sloop
off the Algerian coast. Later sank

12.5.1805Took the Sloop
Cyane (18) 1796-1805
British 18 Gun
Unrated Sloop
between Barbados and Martinique

22.7.18053rd Battle of Cape Finisterre
21.10.1805Battle of Trafalgar
1814Renamed FloreE-WIKI
1817

Part of the Division responsible for repossessing French Guyana .

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Posted by Cy on Monday 21st of November 2022 17:19

Probably because which ever link system you are using prepends information to the url, which breaks the system. It's not a comment on your comment, if you see what I mean and it may not have been deleted, just ignored..

I can confirm that's the case, the url you used was prefixed with 'doc/doc/'. Your comment has been reinstated, this time, but I don't have time to do that all the time and will not guarantee it happening again. Not using a proper name and email makes it less likely as well.


Posted by F.F. on Monday 21st of November 2022 16:49

If my comment was considered as irrelevant, deleting it was for sure to consider. But I wish I know why it was regarded as such.


Posted by F.F. on Saturday 19th of November 2022 18:36

Displacement, deadweight or burthen: from a ton to another one.

Currently ship size is measured in tons, but these tons can give displacement, deadweight tonnage (both being weights), or burthen (measuring room).

L'Hortense, according to a French admiral, had a displacement of 1396 «tonneaux de poids» ≈ 1367t (SI) or 1345 long tons, and a deadweight tonnage of a bit over 718 ≈704t (SI) or 692 long tons. Her burthen, as measured in France, was: lenght × beam × depth to deck = 144 × 36⅔ × 19 ÷ 94 ≈ 1067 «tonneaux de jauge», which was near to the burthen given by British lists for her sisterships taken by the Royal Navy (some 1080 tons), despite a different formula was used.

So, for the same frigate, some lists gave 1396 «tonneaux», other might give 1067 «tonneaux» (whereas burthen was very rarely considered in the French Navy), and most refered to her as a 718 «tonneaux» ship.

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