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Le Duc de Chartres

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Nominal Guns32NNF-1715
NationalityRoyaume de France
OperatorCompagnie des Indes
Keel Laid Down11.1737NNF-1715
Launched3.6.1738NNF-1715
First Commissioned11.1738NNF-1715
How acquiredPurpose builtNNF-1715
ShipyardLorient - Brittany NNF-1715
Constructor
Gilles CambryFrench
Designer
Ship Builder
NNF-1715
CategoryMerchantNNF-1715
Ship TypeEast IndiamanNNF-1715
Captured19.8.1747NNF-1715

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentNNF-1715
Length of Gundeck124' 0"French Feet (Pied du Roi)40.2752 (132′ 1″ Imperial)
Length of Keel110' 0"French Feet (Pied du Roi)35.728 (117′ 2″ Imperial)
Breadth33' 9"French Feet (Pied du Roi)10.7996 (35′ 5″ Imperial)
Depth in Hold13' 2"French Feet (Pied du Roi)4.2404 (13′ 10″ Imperial)
Burthen1,150Ton 

Armament


11.1738Broadside Weight = 132 French Livre (142.4544 lbs 64.614 kg)NNF-1715
Gun Deck4 French 12-Pounder
Gun Deck24 French 8-Pounder
Gun Deck6 French 4-Pounder

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
11.1738204 NNF-1715
19.8.1747195 BG

Service History


DateEventSource
19.8.1747Taken by
Bellona (30) 1747-1749
British 30 Gun
6th Rate Ship
BG


Notes on Ship


CaptureBG

On the 18th Instant ( August 1747) , at 9 in the morning, his Majesty's Ship the Bellona, commanded by the Honourable Captain Barrington, gave chafe to a sail,which was then standing to the Eastward, and at 1 he discovered her to be an enemy, as she had 'then' shortened sail for him; in three Quarters of an hour afterwards "the chafe hoisted French Colours, and fired at the Bellona, which Captain Barrington not thinking himself pear enough, being but just within paint-blanfc, would not return till about 2 of the Clock when Ushant bearing East, distant 3 leagues he began to engage her closely, and continued so till half past Four, when she struck. She proved to be a French East India Ship from Lorient, called the Duc de Chartres, mounted with 30 guns, and 195 men, burthen about 700 Tons, laden "with Beef, Flower, Brandy, Wine, and Oyl, and had also on board 3 mortars, and a great number of shells. Captain Barrington has brought her into Mounts Bay.



 

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Posted by Albert Parker on Monday 5th of July 2021 21:48

A notice in _The London Magazine_, August 1747, p. 343, provides some additional information of unknown accuracy.
"Wednesday, 26 [of July].
"Came Advice, that the Bellona Man of War, commanded by Hon. Capt. Barrington, had taken the 18th and brought into Mount's Bay, a French outward-bound East-India Ship, called the Duke de Chartes, of 30 Guns and 195 Men, after a very smart Engagement of three Hours, the greatest Part of which was Yard-Arm and Yard-Arm; the French had 25 killed and 18 wounded; and the Bellona three Men killed and seven wounded. Both the Ships were so shattered, that Capt. Barrington was obliged to put into the first Port he could make."

In the CdIO records, _Duc de Chartres_ is down as a 32-gun ship, but the British officers had a chance to go on board and count them. 30 is what she would have if the main-deck 12-pounders had been omitted. That would give her a broadside of 108 French pounds = 117 British pounds (53 kg), vs. _Bellona_'s 24 × 9, 4+2 × 4 = 120 pounds (54.5 kg). Such a close balance in firepower did not usually lead to a 4-1 disparity in casualties, but _Bellona_'s captain was an efficient commander, CdIO officers were not oriented toward fighting even if they were good seamen, and _Duc de Chartres_ was only 6 days of out port. Nevertheless, British writers were prone to exaggerate enemy casualties. (Barrington's officers could have counted the wounded and interviewed Captain Joseph Fouquet Du Rumel about the number killed.) The "so shattered ..." comment might also be journalistic hype. CdIO records say a crew of 156, not 195. However, the role d'équipage includes 204 names. A few of those did not make the voyage ("mis en terre"), so 195 is possible; it would take a detailed analysis to confirm that number.


Posted by regis on Monday 5th of July 2021 19:48

my error , corrected


Posted by Albert Parker on Monday 5th of July 2021 19:38

I'm not sure what "(marsh 1747)" means. Notice of the capture was printed in _The London Gazette_, No. 8670 (Aug. 25 to Aug. 29, 1747) and dated "Admiralty Office, August 29." Compagnie des Indes Orientales records at a Web site whose address I can not give here (I tried and was punished with deletion of the entire message!!) but is called "Memoires des hommes" (without the spaces) say that _Duc de Chartres_ departed Lorient on August 23 "pour l'Océan Indien, avec des vivres et des marchandises pour Pondichéry et les Mascareignes et 1480 £ en paistres" ["£" = French livres tournois, ~1/24 of a pound sterling; 1480 = £65+/-] The same site gives the date of capture by the British as Feb. 2, 1748 = Jan. 22, 1747 in the official British calendar. Since the _Gazette_ notice was published when it was September 9 in France, the company should have know about the loss no later than late September, 1747.
If you can find the "Memoires des hommes" Web site, you can follow the following links within the site: Présence française dans le monde > Compagnie des Indes > Armements des navires > Faire une recherche, select "Duc de Chartres" from the menu of ship names, and enter "1747" in the two date fields.

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