Le Mars

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Nominal Guns64NNF-1715
NationalityRoyaume de France
OperatorMarine Royale
Keel Laid Down1.1739NNF-1715
Launched5.1740NNF-1715
First Commissioned4.1741NNF-1715
How acquiredPurpose builtNNF-1715
ShipyardBrest - Brittany NNF-1715
Ship ClassMars ClassNNF-1715
Constructor Joseph-Louis OllivierNNF-1715
CategoryThird RateNNF-1715
National RateDeuxième RangNNF-1715
Ship TypeShip of the Line NNF-1715
Sailing RigShip RiggedNNF-1715
Captured10.1746NNF-1715
BecomesBritish Third Rate ship of the line 'Mars' (1746) (64)

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentBWAS-1714
Length of Gundeck159' 3"Imperial Feet48.4645 
Length of Keel128' 10 ¾"Imperial Feet39.0335 
Breadth44' 9 ¼"Imperial Feet13.4176 
Depth in Hold18' 4"Imperial Feet5.4991 
Burthen1,373 8894Imperial Feet0.0238 
DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentNNF-1715
Length of Gundeck149'French Feet (Pied du Roi)48.4002 (158′ 9″ Imperial)
Length of Keel147'??French Feet (Pied du Roi)47.7456 (156′ 7″ Imperial)
Breadth40' 6"French Feet (Pied du Roi)13.1544 (43′ 1″ Imperial)
Depth in Hold19'French Feet (Pied du Roi)6.1983 (20′ 4″ Imperial)
Burthen1,100Ton 

Armament


1739Broadside Weight = 510 French Livre (550.392 lbs 249.645 kg)NNF-1715
Lower Gun Deck26 French 24-Pounder
Upper Gun Deck28 French 12-Pounder
Quarterdeck/Forecastle10 French 6-Pounder

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
4.17414666 officers, 400 menNNF-1715

1 Ship Commander


DatesRankNameSource
1744 - 1745Capitaine de VaisseauChevalier Antoine-Alexis de Périer (Comte de Salvert) (1691-1757)PMD

1 Petty Officer


DatesRatingNameSource
1743 - 1744Sous-Brigadier , Garde de Marine François Alexis Périer (1725-1756)ref:673

Service History


DateEventSource
8.5.1744Action of 1744-05-08
8.5.1744Took the Ship of the Line Northumberland (64) off Ushant
11.10.1746Taken by Nottingham (60) off Cape clear
11.10.1746Taken by Exeter (58) off Cape Clear

 

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Posted by Albert Parker on Sunday 18th of April 2021 04:45

Etienne seems to be the correct officer.
•The French practice in the 18th century of referring to officers by only a single name, which might be a family name or a place from which officer took a title, while some families had several officers in the navy, is the cause of much confusion. I have Conflans and “Perier’s” reports from Archives Nationales, Marine, sous-serie B4, tom 56, but they don’t help; all the references are merely to “M. Perier” and the signature on Perier’s report looks like just “Perier,” no “aîné” or “cadet” and no “Salvert.”
•English accounts can’t be expected to get this right, and French accounts mostly just say “M. Perrier” or “M. Perier” without saying WHICH M. Perier. The official _Gazette_ (I used the Lyon edition for 1744), says the officers involved in capturing _Northumberland_ were “Chevalier de Conflans & … le sieur Perier” (No. 24, June 13, 1744, p. 96). However . . .
•A letter from Brest dated June 5, 1744, refers to “_le Mars_ … commandé par M. Périer l’aîné.” This was published in Adrien Dessalles, _Histoire générale des Antilles_ (Paris: France, Libraire-Éditeur, 1847–48), IV, 599. It seems to have been written by an officer of _Mars_ who would have known which Perier was his captain. The handwritten original is available at the “Gallica” Web site of the Bibliothèque nationale française as “Clairambault 530: Pièces originales du XVIe siècle, pièces diverses,” etc., pp. 247–49 of 321.
•Perhaps on the basis of this letter, Léon Guérin, _Histoire maritime de la France_ (Paris: Dufour et Mulat, 1851), IV, 258, refers to “_le Mars_ … que commandait le capitaine Perier l’aîné.” Guérin seems to have been some kind of unofficial navy historian during the Second Republic and Second Empire; he made extensive use of the navy’s archives when they were first being opened to researchers. Therefore . . .
•On the basis of the June 5 letter and Guérin, I have changed my listing of the commander of _Mars_ during the action with _Northumberland_ from Antoine-Alexis to Etienne.

I have relied on Michel Vergé-Franceschi, _Les officiers généraux de la marine royale (1715–1774)_ (Paris: Librairie de l'Inde, 1990), a massive (7 volumes!) study that focuses on family relationships within the officer corps. Unfortunately, I have the same notes about the _Northumberland_ action on my pages for both Antoine-Alexis and Etienne! Obviously, I was confused at the time I was consulting this work.


Posted by regis on Wednesday 31st of March 2021 21:23

antoine also commanding in 1745 the Mars .


Posted by regis on Wednesday 31st of March 2021 21:21

i have just read the site Parcours d'officiers dans la royale

and they have his brother Etienne for commanding officer for the capture of Northumberland ??


Posted by Albert Parker on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:13

The commanding officer of Mars on 1744-05-08 was Capt. Antoine-Alexis Périer (“Périer le cadet," later Périer de Salvert)

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