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Racehorse -> 1775 Thunder

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Nominal Guns18BWAS-1714
NationalityGreat Britain
OperatorRoyal Navy
Named5.5.1757BWAS-1714
Captured28.4.1757BWAS-1714
First Commissioned5.5.1757BWAS-1714
ShipyardNantes - Brittany BWAS-1714
CategoryUnratedBWAS-1714
Ship TypeSloopBWAS-1714
Sailing RigShip RiggedBWAS-1714
Captured14.8.1778BWAS-1714

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentBWAS-1714
Length of Gundeck96' 7"Imperial Feet29.2904 
Length of Keel77' 1 ¼"Imperial Feet23.476 
Breadth30' 8"Imperial Feet9.3472 
Depth in Hold13' 4"Imperial Feet3.9963 
Burthen385 6694Tons BM 

Armament


6.1757Broadside Weight = 57.5 Imperial Pound ( 26.0766 kg)BWAS-1714
Upper Gun Deck18 British 6-Pounder
Upper Gun Deck14 British 1/2-Pound Swivel

4.1758Broadside Weight = 26 Imperial Pound ( 11.7912 kg)BWAS-1714
Upper Gun Deck8 British 6-Pounder
Upper Gun Deck8 British 1/2-Pound Swivel

9.1758Broadside Weight = 27 Imperial Pound ( 12.2448 kg)BWAS-1714
Upper Gun Deck8 British 6-Pounder
Upper Gun Deck12 British 1/2-Pound Swivel
Upper Gun Deck1 British 13" Mortar
Upper Gun Deck1 British 10" Mortar

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
6.1757120 BWAS-1714
4.175845as a fireshipBWAS-1714
9.175870as a bomb vesselBWAS-1714

18 Ship Commanders


DatesRankNameSource
4.1.1757 - 5.5.1757Commander
Thomas WarwickBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1738-1763
ADM 6/18/438
Issued by
Charles WatsonBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1734-1758

Confirmed 19.9.1757
ADM 6/18
5.5.1757 - 24.6.1757Commander
Richard CarteretBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1738-1763
Transfered ADM 6/18/394
ADM 6/18
24.6.1757 - 27.9.1758Commander
Francis BurslemBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1735-1760
ADM 6/18/414
BWAS-1714
27.9.1758 - 2.6.1759Commander
Francis RichardsBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1736-1775
ADM 6/18/540
BWAS-1714
2.6.1759 - 25.11.1759Commander
George MillerBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1758-1759
† Discharged Dead
W029
15.5.1760 - 3.7.1760Commander
James HarmoodBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1747-1763
Transfered ADM 6/19/165
BWAS-1714
19.8.1760 - 3.6.1763Commander
John MacartneyBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1748-1781
ADM 6/19/516
Issued by , North America
Confirmed 30.6.1763
BWAS-1714
26.5.1768 - 26.10.1771Commander
John HarveyBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1753-1791
ADM 6/20/204
ADM 6/20
26.10.1771 - 13.4.1773Commander
Saint John ChinneryBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1745-1780
Transfered ADM 6/20/408
BWAS-1714
16.4.1773 - 13.10.1773Commander
The Hon. Constantine John PhippsBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1759-1792
ADM 6/20/488
BWAS-1714
15.10.1773 - 21.1.1775Commander
Henry HarveyBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1751-1805
ADM 6/20/522
ADM 6/20
21.1.1775 - 13.9.1775Commander
James OrrokBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1736-1783
ADM 6/21/68
BWAS-1714
24.10.1775 - 5.7.1776Commander
James ReidBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1750-1794
ADM 6/21/129
BWAS-1714
6.7.1776 - 11.11.1776Commander
Anthony James Pye MolloyBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1768-1794
ADM 6/21/273
Issued by
Lord Richard Howe (4th Viscount Howe)British
Naval Sailor
Marine
Service 1736-1799
, The Mediterranean Sea
Confirmed 4.4.1777
BWAS-1714
11.11.1776 - 1.12.1777Commander
Thomas CadoganBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1770-1782
ADM 6/21/293
Issued by
Clark GaytonBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1723-1782
, Jamaica - Greater Antilles
Confirmed 19.6.1777
ADM 6/21
1.12.1777 - 25.1.1778Commander
John BrownBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1772-1808
ADM 6/21/361
Issued by
Lord Richard Howe (4th Viscount Howe)British
Naval Sailor
Marine
Service 1736-1799
, North America
ADM 6/21
25.1.1778 - 9.3.1778Commander
David GravesBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1764-1799
ADM 6/21/510
Issued by
Lord Richard Howe (4th Viscount Howe)British
Naval Sailor
Marine
Service 1736-1799
, North America
Confirmed 11.2.1779
ADM 6/21
9.3.1778 - 14.8.1778Commander
James GambierBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1767-1830
ADM 6/21/376
BWAS-1714

4 Warrant Officers


DatesRankNameSource
25.10.1758 - 21.11.1758Master
Robert McDougallBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1753-1813
Transfered ADM 107/5/141
ADM 107/5
1759Surgeon
Thomas CrebbinBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1757-1759
ref:921
4.1773 - 1773Surgeon
Charles IrvingBritish
Naval Sailor
Medic
Service 1755-1773
ref:1672
4.1773 - 1773Master
John CraneBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1773
ref:1672

1 Petty Officer


DatesRatingNameSource
6.1773 - 1773Midshipman
Philip d'AuvergneBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1769-1814
ref:616

Service History


DateEventSource
21.4.1757Began fitting at Rotherhithe - London - Surrey BWAS-1714
28.4.1757Purchased at Unknown at a cost of £1859.8.6dBWAS-1714
20.7.1757Completed fitting at Rotherhithe - London - Surrey BWAS-1714
20.7.1757Began fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford BWAS-1714
16.8.1757Completed fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford at a cost of £2211.8.6dBWAS-1714
15.3.1758Took the Privateer
Le Boulonnaise 1758-1758
French Privateer

4.1758Began fitting at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham BWAS-1714
21.4.1758Refitted as a 8 gun Unrated Fireship
5.1758Completed fitting at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham at a cost of £1060.7.1dBWAS-1714
9.1758Began fitting at Portsmouth Dockyard - Portsmouth BWAS-1714
5.9.1758Refitted as a 8 gun Unrated Bomb Vessel
11.1758Completed fitting at Portsmouth Dockyard - Portsmouth at a cost of £4327.18.7dBWAS-1714
16.2.1759Sailed for North AmericaBWAS-1714
5.1760Refitted as a 16 gun Unrated Unknown
20.3.1761Sailed with a convoy for NewfoundlandBWAS-1714
1762Home watersBWAS-1714
3.6.1763

Paid off

BWAS-1714
7.10.1763SurveyedBWAS-1714
5.1771Began small repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
10.1771RecommissionedBWAS-1714
1772Began fitting at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
3.1772Completed small repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness at a cost of £3526.1.7dBWAS-1714
3.1772Completed fitting at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness at a cost of £1451.19.0dBWAS-1714
3.1773Began fitting at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
4.1773On a voyage of discovery towards the north poleODNB
5.1773Completed fitting at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
10.1773Began fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford BWAS-1714
13.10.1773

Paid off

BWAS-1714
11.1773Completed fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford at a cost of £2891.1.6dBWAS-1714
1.1775RecommissionedBWAS-1714
2.1775Began fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford BWAS-1714
4.1775Completed fitting at Deptford Dockyard - Deptford at a cost of £2679.1.3dBWAS-1714
13.9.1775

Paid off

BWAS-1714
24.10.1775Refitted as a 8 gun Unrated Bomb Vessel
24.10.1775Renamed ThunderBWAS-1714
23.2.1776Sailed for North AmericaBWAS-1714
28.7.1776At CharlestonBWAS-1714
19.6.1778Paid offADM 51
22.7.1778Encounter at Sandy Hook
14.8.1778Taken by
L'Hector (74) 1755-1782
French 74 Gun
3rd Rate Ship of the Line
off Sandy Hook

14.8.1778Taken by
Le Vaillant (64) 1755-1783
French 64 Gun
3rd Rate Ship of the Line
off Sandy Hook



Notes on Ship


OriginBWAS-1714
French Le Marquis de Vaudreuil. It is not clear whether this is a prize vessel or not?

 

Previous comments on this page

Posted by Cy on Monday 8th of January 2018 08:50

Hi Madick
Not a great start, all the info you ask for is on this page, except that this Racehorse was not wrecked. I think you have the wrong ship.


Posted by Madick Gueye on Monday 8th of January 2018 02:42

Bonjour!
Je suis doctorant en archéologie sous-marine à Dakar (Sénégal) et Marseille.
Je suis intéressé par le naufrage du navire RaceHorse et j'ai décidé de faire ma thèse sur l'étude de cette épave.
Je voudrai avoir des informations concernant ce navire comme:
-son propriétaire
-son port d'armenment
-des dimension
-son tonnage etc
Merci


Posted by Tim Oakley on Tuesday 5th of September 2017 15:56

5th Oct 1773 Racehorse Commander Phipps and Carcass Captain Lutwidge arrive at Orfordness on return from the Artic
15th Oct 1773 Racehorse Commander Phipps and Carcass Captain Lutwidge paid off


Posted by Tim Oakley on Sunday 2nd of July 2017 20:48

Translation: I am a Senegalese student in These. I opted for underwater archeology and I am interested in the archives of the Senegal ship. I discovered the sinking site of the ship in Senegal and I want to do my thesis on its sinking. I want to launch underwater archaeological excavations to better study the boats.


Posted by Madick Gueye on Saturday 1st of July 2017 22:18

Bonjour,
Je suis étudiant sénégalais en These. J'ai opté l'archéologie sous-marine et je suis intéressé par les archives du navires Senegal. J'ai découvert le site de naufrage du navire au Sénégal et je veux faire ma thése sur son naufrage. Je veux dons lancer des opérations de fouilles archéologique sous-marine pour mieux étudier le bateaux.

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