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La Renommée

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Nominal Guns30NNF-1715
NationalityRoyaume de France
OperatorMarine Royale
Keel Laid Down1.1744NNF-1715
Acquired19.12.1744NNF-1715
First Commissioned1.1745NNF-1715
ShipyardBrest - Brittany NNF-1715
Ship ClassSirene Class (1744)NNF-1715
Designed by
Jacques-Luc CoulombFrench
Naval Sailor
Designer
Ship Builder
Service 1728-1768
NNF-1715
Constructor
François-Guillaume Clairain des LauriersFrench
Naval Sailor
Designer
Ship Builder
Service 1738-1768
NNF-1715
CategoryFifth RateNNF-1715
National RateQuatrième RangNNF-1715
Ship TypeFrigateNNF-1715
Sailing RigShip RiggedNNF-1715
Captured27.9.1747BWAS-1714
Becomes
British Sixth Rate frigate 'Fame' (1747) (30) 1747-1771
British 30 Gun
6th Rate Frigate
1748 Renamed "Renown"

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentNNF-1715
Length of Gundeck118'French Feet (Pied du Roi)38.3384 (125′ 9″ Imperial)
Length of Keel100'French Feet (Pied du Roi)32.48 (106′ 6″ Imperial)
Breadth31' 8"French Feet (Pied du Roi)10.2853 (33′ 8″ Imperial)
Depth in Hold16'French Feet (Pied du Roi)5.2239 (17′ 1″ Imperial)
Burthen500Ton 

Armament


1.1745Broadside Weight = 112 French Livre (120.8704 lbs 54.824 kg)NNF-1715
Upper Gun Deck26 French 8-Pounder
Quarterdeck4 French 4-Pounder

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
1.17452244 officers, 220 menNNF-1715

1 Ship Commander


DatesRankNameSource
1.1745 - 30.11.1747Lieutenant de Vaisseau
Guy-François de Coëtnempren (Comte de Kersaint)French
Naval Sailor
Service 1718-1756
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1 Passenger


DatesRankNameSource
6.1747 - 27.9.1747Capitaine de Vaisseau
Hubert de Brienne (Comte de Conflans)French
Naval Sailor
Service 1706-1777
FWIKI

Service History


DateEventSource
27.9.1747Taken by
Dover (44) 1740-1763
British 44 Gun
5th Rate Ship
in the Channel


 

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Posted by F.F. on Sunday 22nd of January 2023 03:12

Dimensions (according to Duhamel du Monceau)
Lenght, 120 pieds ≈ 38,98 m ≈ 127' 10⅔"
Beam (measured differently than done in England), 31 pieds 8 pouces ≈ 10,29 m ≈ 33' 9"
Depth to deck, 15 pieds 7 pouces ≈ 16' 7.3"


Posted by F.F. on Sunday 22nd of January 2023 02:57

According to W. L. Cowes et alii (The Royal Navy. A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, volume III, London, 1898), la Renommée had 32 guns, and was taken on September, the 13ᵗʰ, 1747 by the Dover, 50, after having been crippled on the 12ᵗʰ, in an unconclusive fight against the Amazon (formerly the French frigate la Subtile, according to Clowes, or la Panthère, according to Wikipedia; anyway, in 1747, her captain was Samuel Faulknor), 26, on the 12ᵗʰ. Mʳ Christoph Koch (cf. his comment below) already said that count de Conflans was among the prisoners: his name is well-known because a fleet under his command was to be defeated by Hawke on November, the 20ᵗʰ, 1759 (Quiberon Bay).

Clowes says that in 1745, when Louisbourg was to be sieged, «the French Government, hearing of the projected attack, had hastily despatched the Renommée, 32, one of its fastest frigates, commanded by the celebrated Kersaint, with dispatches for Louisbourg. On April 18ᵗʰ, she sighted Rous’s blockading squadron, which very pluckily attacked her and forced her to fly, greatly disabled. In her flight she encountered some transports, which, escorted by a privateer, were on their way to join Pepperel. These she attacked, but the privateer defended them so well that once more she made sail and got away.» Also, «Some French accounts mention […] the Renommée, 28, as having been with La Bourdonnais» on June, the 26ᵗʰ, 1746, facing Peyton, off Negapatam. Despite much greater forces, Peyton was repelled, and eventually Mahé de La Bourdonnais was to take Madras.

According to Henri-Louis Duhamel du Monceau (Éléments de l'architecture navale, Paris, 1752, p. 5), la Renommée was an «excellente Frégate , conſtruite à Breſt par Mr. des Lauriers» (excellent frigate, built in Brest by Mr Deslauriers [François-Guillaume Clairin-Deslauriers]). He says (p. 328) that her «port» (total weight on board—everything, but the hull) was some 435 «tonneaux de poids» ≈ 426t (SI) ≈ 419 long tons, and her displacement, some 786 «tonneaux de poids» ≈ 769t (SI) ≈ 757 long tons. She had 30 guns (twenty-six 8-pounders and four 4-pounders).

Frigates mounting 8-pounders had been launched in France as soon as 1728, designed by Blaise Ollivier, and those bearing 12-pounders, from 1747. The first English true frigates, the Lyme and the Unicorn (with 9-pounders), were launched in 1748.


Posted by Christoph Koch on Saturday 7th of January 2023 05:09

Note that in 1747 the Comte the Conflans was a passenger aboard Le Renommee, on his way to take his post as Governor-General of Santo Domingo. On this voyage (during which she was taken by the British), Le Renommee was captained by Saint-Alouarn the Elder, a First Lieutenant, not a Capitaine de Vaisseau.


Posted by David Stockman on Wednesday 6th of February 2013 20:29

The Renommée was first commanded by the illustrious Captain Guy Kersaint and was captured when commanded under the command of Francois de Saint-Alouarn. After capture in 1747 she as first named the Fame but before she put to sea she was renamed by the Admiralty as the Renown. Her first English captain was Washington Shirley, the captain who had captured her. She was laid up in ordinance at Hamoaze from 1750 until 1756. At the beginning of the Seven Years Wars she was first used to patrol the Channel and French coast and also sent to the West Indies usually stationed at Port Royal. In 1766 she was out of commission again but put back to sea duty in the West Indies the following year. The remaining years found her on patrol as previously until she was broken up at Woolwich in 1771. She had many captures and actions and the list of her commanders contains some of the finest captains at sea, both French and English, of that age.

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