British Sixth Rate ship 'Rose' (1757)

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Rose

6258
Nominal Guns20BWAS-1714
NationalityGreat Britain
OperatorRoyal Navy
Ordered13.4.1756BWAS-1714
Keel Laid Down5.6.1756BWAS-1714
Launched8.3.1757BWAS-1714
First Commissioned15.11.1756BWAS-1714
How acquiredPurpose builtBWAS-1714
ShipyardKingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber BWAS-1714
Ship ClassSeaford ClassBWAS-1714
Designed by
William BatelyBritish
Designer
Ship Builder
Dockyard Staff
Service 1741-1755
BWAS-1714
Constructor
Hugh BlaydesBritish
Ship Builder
Service 1686
BWAS-1714
CategorySixth RateBWAS-1714
Ship TypeShip BWAS-1714
Sailing RigShip RiggedBWAS-1714
Sunk as Blockship19.9.1779BWAS-1714

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentBWAS-1714
Length of Gundeck108' 11 ½"Imperial Feet32.9311 
Length of Keel90' 10 ¼"Imperial Feet27.4384 
Breadth30' 1"Imperial Feet9.1694 
Depth in Hold9' 6"Imperial Feet2.8956 
Burthen430 37⁄94Tons BM 

Armament


8.3.1757Broadside Weight = 90 Imperial Pound ( 40.815 kg)BWAS-1714
Upper Gun Deck20 British 9-Pounder

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
1753160Design Complement

10 Ship Commanders


DatesRankNameSource
15.11.1756 - 21.1.1757Captain
Charles WebberBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1743-1780
ADM 6/18/324BWAS-171421.1.1757Captain
William NortonBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1742-1779
ADM 6/18/347ADM 6/1821.1.1757 - 22.5.1758Captain
Charles WebberBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1743-1780
Transfered ADM 6/18/347ADM 6/1822.5.1758 - 14.4.1760Captain
Benjamin CliveBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1746-1762
Transfered ADM 6/18/516TRN314.4.1760 - 24.9.1761Captain
Francis BanksBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1748-1772
ADM 6/19/158BWAS-171424.9.1761 - 14.5.1764Captain
John Neale Pleydell NottBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1746-1764
ADM 6/20/34
Issued by
Sir James DouglasBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1732-1782

Confirmed 27.6.1764BWAS-171419.4.1768 - 15.11.1771Captain
Benjamin CaldwellBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1753-1805
ADM 6/20/200BWAS-171415.11.1771 - 25.4.1776Captain
James WallaceBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1746-1799
Transfered ADM 6/20/413BWAS-171425.4.1776 - 6.7.1776Captain
Alexander ScottBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1770-1794
ADM 6/21/182ADM 6/216.7.1776 - 30.4.1779Captain
James ReidBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1750-1794
ADM 6/21/450
Issued by
Lord Richard Howe (4th Viscount Howe)British
Naval Sailor
Marine
Service 1736-1799
, North America
Confirmed 7.9.1778BWAS-1714

1 Petty Officer


DatesRatingNameSource
1778 - 30.4.1779Midshipman
Edward Walpole BrowneBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1777-1840
NBD1849

Service History


DateEventSource
5.6.1756Began building at Kingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber BWAS-1714
8.3.1757Completed building at Kingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber at a cost of £5313.8.7dBWAS-1714
6.1758Operations against St Malo, Cherbourg and St CasBWAS-1714
5.6.1758Raid on Saint-Malo
1760Sailed for the Leeward IslandsBWAS-1714
13.11.1761Took the Privateer
La Revanche 1761-1761
French Privateer

7.1.1762Operations against Martinique
6.6.1762Operations against Havana
14.5.1764Paid offADM 51
26.9.1764SurveyedBWAS-1714
4.1767Began large repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
29.4.1767SurveyedBWAS-1714
4.1768RecommissionedBWAS-1714
6.1768Completed large repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness at a cost of £9529.16.10dBWAS-1714
13.8.1768Sailed for North AmericaBWAS-1714
1771Ordered homeBWAS-1714
11.12.1774Arrived at Newport, Rhode IslandNDARI
26.4.1775Took the Sloop
Diana 1775-1775
American Merchant Sloop
W027
2.7.1776Staten Island Landings
1777Commissioned for North AmericaBWAS-1714
30.4.1779Paid offADM 51
9.9.1779Siege of Savannah
19.9.1779Sunk as a blockship at SavannahBWAS-1714


Fleets

DatesFleetFleet CommanderSource
1.1.1775-1.1.1775North American Squadron on the 1st of January 1775
Samuel GravesBritish
Naval Sailor
Service 1732-1783
 
 
Previous comments on this page

Posted by Colin Peckham on Thursday 9th of April 2020 05:31

I understand that some of the crew died during the two engagements off Prudence Island. John was born in 1702.

Posted by Cy on Sunday 16th of February 2020 10:59

The place to look would be the muster logs of the Rose (not HMS Rose, HMS is an anachronism for this date). They are held in the national archives in Kew. references ADM 36/7947 Jan 1775-Aug 1776, ADM 36/7948 Sep 1776-Aug 1777 and ADM 36/1949 Sep 1777- Dec 1778.

To confuse things slightly there was also a tender called Rose in service at the same time, her muster log is ADM 9325 Sep 1777-Dec 1778.

Posted by Colin Peckham on Sunday 16th of February 2020 09:02

Hi, my 5th Great John Peckham born 1695 ? in Hamphshire England ? Died 12th October 1777 who married Mary Angel 30 Sept 1722 in Ellingham Hampshire England. I just discovered that hos place of death was H.M.S. Rose in 1777, which is most interesting. I was wondering where exactly and how he died. Was it during battle ? was it at sea on the voyage from England to America. I was hoping that someone could help ?

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