British Sixth Rate ship 'Rose' (1757)

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Rose	6258
Nominal Guns	20	BWAS-1714
Nationality	Great Britain
Operator	Royal Navy
Ordered	13.4.1756	BWAS-1714
Keel Laid Down	5.6.1756	BWAS-1714
Launched	8.3.1757	BWAS-1714
First Commissioned	15.11.1756	BWAS-1714
How acquired	Purpose built	BWAS-1714
Shipyard	Kingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber	BWAS-1714
Ship Class	Seaford Class (1753)	BWAS-1714
Designed by	William BatelyBritish Designer Ship Builder Dockyard Staff Service 1741-1755	BWAS-1714
Constructor	Hugh BlaydesBritish Ship Builder Service 1686	BWAS-1714
Category	Sixth Rate	BWAS-1714
Ship Type	Ship	BWAS-1714
Sailing Rig	Ship Rigged	BWAS-1714
Sunk as Blockship	19.9.1779	BWAS-1714

Dimensions

DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentBWAS-1714
Length of Gundeck108' 11 ½"Imperial Feet32.9311
Length of Keel90' 10 ¼"Imperial Feet27.4384
Breadth30' 1"Imperial Feet9.1694
Depth in Hold9' 6"Imperial Feet2.8956
Burthen430 ³⁷⁄₉₄Tons BM

Armament

8.3.1757Broadside Weight = 90 Imperial Pound ( 40.815 kg)BWAS-1714
Upper Gun Deck20 British 9-Pounder

Crew Complement

Date# of MenNotesSource
1753160Design Complement

10 Ship Commanders

DatesRankNameSource
15.11.1756 - 21.1.1757Captain ADM 6/18/324BWAS-171421.1.1757Captain ADM 6/18/347ADM 6/1821.1.1757 - 22.5.1758Captain Transfered ADM 6/18/347ADM 6/1822.5.1758 - 14.4.1760Captain Transfered ADM 6/18/516TRN314.4.1760 - 24.9.1761Captain ADM 6/19/158BWAS-171424.9.1761 - 14.5.1764Captain ADM 6/20/34
Issued by
Confirmed 27.6.1764BWAS-171419.4.1768 - 15.11.1771Captain ADM 6/20/200BWAS-171415.11.1771 - 25.4.1776Captain Transfered ADM 6/20/413BWAS-171425.4.1776 - 6.7.1776Captain ADM 6/21/182ADM 6/216.7.1776 - 30.4.1779Captain ADM 6/21/450
Issued by , North America
Confirmed 7.9.1778BWAS-1714

2 Commissioned Officers

DatesRankNameSource
15.11.1756 - 21.1.1757Lieutenant ADM 6/18/325ADM 6/1821.1.1757 - 20.5.1759Lieutenant ADM 6/18/347ADM 6/18

1 Petty Officer

DatesRatingNameSource
1778 - 30.4.1779MidshipmanNBD1849

Service History

DateEventSource
5.6.1756Began building at Kingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber BWAS-1714
8.3.1757Completed building at Kingston upon Hull - Yorkshire - The Humber at a cost of £5313.8.7dBWAS-1714
6.1758Operations against St Malo, Cherbourg and St CasBWAS-1714
5.6.1758Raid on Saint-Malo
1760Sailed for the Leeward IslandsBWAS-1714
13.11.1761Took the Privateer
7.1.1762Operations against Martinique
6.6.1762Operations against Havana
14.5.1764Paid offADM 51
26.9.1764SurveyedBWAS-1714
4.1767Began large repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness BWAS-1714
29.4.1767SurveyedBWAS-1714
4.1768RecommissionedBWAS-1714
6.1768Completed large repair at Sheerness Dockyard - Sheerness at a cost of £9529.16.10dBWAS-1714
13.8.1768Sailed for North AmericaBWAS-1714
1771Ordered homeBWAS-1714
11.12.1774Arrived at Newport, Rhode IslandNDARI
26.4.1775Took the Sloop W027
2.7.1776Staten Island Landings
1777Commissioned for North AmericaBWAS-1714
30.4.1779Paid offADM 51
9.9.1779Siege of Savannah
19.9.1779Sunk as a blockship at SavannahBWAS-1714

Fleets
Dates	Fleet	Fleet Commander	Source
1.1.1775-1.1.1775	North American Squadron on the 1st of January 1775	Samuel GravesBritish Naval Sailor Service 1732-1783

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Posted by Robert Hubler on Thursday 13th of January 2022 00:48

Vice Admiral Shuldham dispatches have Captain Wallace in command in July 1776 during Staten Island Operations. Also, in command when Rose went up the Hudson with Phoenix. Captain Alexander Scott commanding Experiment at Charleston in July was wounded. See pension award for losing his arm. In October 1776 Convalescing Captain Scott exchanged from Experiment into Rose to return to England. Captain Scott could not have taken command of Rose on 25.4.1776. Question now is when did Captain Reid take command from Scott and where?

Posted by Colin Peckham on Thursday 9th of April 2020 05:31

I understand that some of the crew died during the two engagements off Prudence Island. John was born in 1702.

Posted by Cy on Sunday 16th of February 2020 10:59

The place to look would be the muster logs of the Rose (not HMS Rose, HMS is an anachronism for this date). They are held in the national archives in Kew. references ADM 36/7947 Jan 1775-Aug 1776, ADM 36/7948 Sep 1776-Aug 1777 and ADM 36/1949 Sep 1777- Dec 1778.

To confuse things slightly there was also a tender called Rose in service at the same time, her muster log is ADM 9325 Sep 1777-Dec 1778.

Posted by Colin Peckham on Sunday 16th of February 2020 09:02

Hi, my 5th Great John Peckham born 1695 ? in Hamphshire England ? Died 12th October 1777 who married Mary Angel 30 Sept 1722 in Ellingham Hampshire England. I just discovered that hos place of death was H.M.S. Rose in 1777, which is most interesting. I was wondering where exactly and how he died. Was it during battle ? was it at sea on the voyage from England to America. I was hoping that someone could help ?

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