British Third Rate ship of the line 'Venerable' (1784)

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Venerable

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Nominal Guns74B028
NationalityGreat Britain
OperatorRoyal Navy
Ordered23.7.1781BWAS-1714
Keel Laid Down4.1782BWAS-1714
Acquired19.4.1784B028
First Commissioned5.1794B028
ShipyardBlackwall Yard - Blackwall B028
Ship ClassThunderer ClassB028
Designed bySir John Henslow (1730-1815)BWAS-1714
Constructor John Perry (1743-1810)BWAS-1714
CategoryThird RateB028
Ship TypeShip of the Line B028
Sailing RigShip RiggedB028
Wrecked24.11.1804B028

Dimensions


DimensionMeasurementTypeMetric EquivalentBWAS-1714
Length of Gundeck170' 0"Imperial Feet51.816 
Length of Keel139' 8"Imperial Feet42.3724 
Breadth47' 2"Imperial Feet14.3329 
Depth in Hold19' 11"Imperial Feet5.794 
Draught Forward12' 8"Imperial Feet3.7592 
Draught Aft17' 11"Imperial Feet5.1852 
Burthen1,652 64⁄94Tons BM 

Armament


19.4.1784Broadside Weight = 781 Imperial Pound ( 354.1835 kg)BWAS-1793
Lower Gun Deck28 British 32-Pounder
Upper Gun Deck28 British 18-Pounder
Quarterdeck14 British 9-Pounder
Forecastle4 British 9-Pounder

Crew Complement


Date# of MenNotesSource
1805121Design Complement

11 Ship Commanders


DatesRankNameSource
23.5.1794 - 6.1795CaptainSir John Orde (1751-1824) ADM 6/25/44BWAS-17146.1795 - 9.1795Captain William Johnstone Hope (1766-1831)BWAS-17149.1795Captain James BissettBWAS-17149.1795 - 11.1796Captain William Johnstone Hope (1766-1831)BWAS-171414.9.1796 - 14.3.1798Captain William George Fairfax (1739-1813)BWAS-171430.1.1799 - 7.1.1801CaptainSir William George Fairfax (1739-1813)BWAS-17141.1801 - 1802Captain Samuel Hood (1762-1814)BWAS-17141802 - 1803Captain John Clarke SearleBWAS-17141803 - 2.1804Captain George ReynoldsBWAS-17142.1804 - 8.1804Captain Barrington Dacres (d.1806)BWAS-17148.1804 - 24.11.1804Captain John HunterBWAS-1714

3 Flag Officers


DatesRankNameSource
6.1795 - 11.1797Admiral of the Blue Adam Duncan (1731-1804)BWAS-171412.6.1803 - 10.8.1803Rear-Admiral of the Red Cuthbert Collingwood (1750-1810)NAO23.8.1803 - 26.12.1803Rear-Admiral of the Red Cuthbert Collingwood (1750-1810)NAO

2 Commissioned Officers


DatesRankNameSource
9.7.1794 - 3.1797Lieutenant John Baker (1770-1845)NBD184911.1794 - 11.4.1795LieutenantSir Thomas Brown (d.1851)NBD1849

2 Warrant Officers


DatesRankNameSource
12.6.1794 - 16.4.1795Master Richard NicholsonADM 29-119.1.1803 - 10.12.1804Carpenter Thomas ChaplinADM 29/8

5 Petty Officers


DatesRatingNameSource
1797Midshipman Donald Campbell (1788-?)NBD18491800 - 1801Midshipman George Guy BurtonNBD184910.1802 - 12.1803Midshipman Herbert Caiger (1786-?)NBD18493.1804 - 4.1805Midshipman George Charles BlakeNBD18495.1804 - 24.11.1804Midshipman Herbert Caiger (1786-?)NBD1849

4 Crewmen


DatesRatingNameSource
1799 - 1800Boy George Guy BurtonNBD18494.1799 - 18011st Class Volunteer William Apreece (d.1859)NBD18494.1799 - 18011st Class Volunteer William Apreece (d.1859)NBD184926.7.1803 - 10.8.18031st Class Volunteer Gilbert Dutton Kennicott (1789-1874)NBD1849

Service History


DateEventSource
8.1784Began fitting at Woolwich Dockyard - Woolwich BWAS-1714
29.8.1784Completed at Woolwich Dockyard - Woolwich at a cost of £32263.2.1dBWAS-1714
29.8.1784Completed fitting at Woolwich Dockyard - Woolwich at a cost of £6588.11.4dBWAS-1714
10.1793Began small repair at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham BWAS-1714
5.1794CommissionedBWAS-1714
6.1794Completed small repair at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham at a cost of £14977.0.0dBWAS-1714
6.1795In the North SeaBWAS-1714
11.10.1797Battle of Camperdown
14.3.1798

Paid off

BWAS-1714
6.1798Began fitting at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham BWAS-1714
3.1799Completed fitting at Chatham Dockyard - Chatham at a cost of £21714.0.0dBWAS-1714
24.4.1799

Arrived at St Helens

TNC
2.7.1799Attack on Aix Roads
6.7.1801Battle of Algeciras Bay
12.7.1801The Gut of Gibraltar
24.11.1804Wrecked in Torbay losing 8 drownedBWAS-1714

 
Previous comments on this page

Posted by Richard Porteous on Thursday 27th of August 2020 19:46

My g-g-g grandfather James Porteous was Fleet Pilot at the Battle of Camperdown 1797 and evidently along with Admiral Duncan were the only two persons who were not injured on the quarterdeck. Porteous subsequently became Master of King George 111's Royal Yacht 'Royal George'. His son, also James Porteous, was Second Master on HMS Montague at Camperdown and received the Naval General Medal 1848 with Camperdown bar.

Posted by Richard Porteous on Thursday 27th of August 2020 19:46

My g-g-g grandfather James Porteous was Fleet Pilot at the Battle of Camperdown 1797 and evidently along with Admiral Duncan were the only two persons who were not injured on the quarterdeck. Porteous subsequently became Master of King George 111's Royal Yacht 'Royal George'. His son, also James Porteous, was Second Master on HMS Montague at Camperdown and received the Naval General Medal 1848 with Camperdown bar.

Posted by Charles on Thursday 24th of July 2014 18:32

Plymouth, September 6, 1794

Earl Howe’s [Grand] Fleet hove into sight of this harbour early yesterday morning: the night preceding, they fell in with 18 sail of homeward bound East Indiamen off Dartmouth, who ran foul of several of the fleet, and slightly damaged them, which obliged his Lordship to bear up for Torbay, in order to have his disabled ships refitted. - The AQUILON and MELAMPUS Frigates belonging to the fleet, have received the greatest damage, the former arrived here yesterday with her bowsprit sprung, and fore-top-mast carried away - the latter was towed into the Sound this afternoon by the RUSSEL man of war, with the loss of her bowsprit and Foremast. The AQUILON got in a new bowsprit this morning, and her repairs are expected to be complete in the course of the day.

Torbay, Sept 6 1794

Yesterday evening arrived and came to an anchor the Grand Fleet, under the command of Earl Howe; also the TRITON East Indiaman, towed in by VENERABLE man of war, having run foul of the LATONA frigate, and knocked away her bow-sprit and forestays, and carried away all her lower masts.

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